Mehrsa Baradaran is a law professor specializing in banking law at the University of California, Irvine, and her conversation with Deval focuses on the American dream. Our scrappy country was organized against old powers of aristocracy on behalf of the common people, but now counts itself as a world power. How do we move forward with that dichotomy? How do we ensure a communal — and not a selfish — kind of freedom? How do we rebuild ladders of success, no matter the zip code?